Libre Gaming meeting minutes #3

Attending

Attending: emorrp1, hribhrib, seabass, ThinkSome, librebob, poVoq, Xilef

Agenda

• Matchbot, which version?

  • Andrews new version? Was just a quick fix?
  • Hribhrib will try to host the Clojure version? Maybe convert into Matrix bot?

• Take up offer for free Lemmy hosting (one year limited)?

  • communities.libregaming.org? Lemmy.libregaming.org discuss.libregaming.org? forum.libregaming.org?
    • CNAME offer to trial before self-hosting, no .well-known (yet)
    • do we even need our own instance? - could just have a community, or offer as a service for games
  • does this federate with e.g. https://lemmy.ml/c/opensourcegames
    • if someone has an account on libregaming.org, they can subscribe to the lemmy.ml/c/opensourcegames
    • crossposting to promote the existing community
  • see also overlap with Okapi - fracturing?
  • FGD currently has flarum

• Website status update (postponed, no-one working on it present)

• Affiliated communities update:

  • onFOSS has had some independent work - will probably merge with LibreGaming, but TBD
  • freegamedev - still separate, but happy to have lots of overlap, closer to opengameart.org
  • libregamenight - is there actually any difference in membership? (seems to be the on-topic chat)

• LibreSpades and other asset liberation activities, status update - any role for libregaming.org?

  • status: maintainer needed
  • status: works without non-free assets
  • needs: new models for player characters. Currently these are small red boxes floating about. This makes it hard to tell enemies/friendlies apart.
  • needs: new models for weapons. Is playable without
  • needs: new sounds/music
  • look into this?: https://github.com/xtreme8000/BetterSpades
    • has GPL3? assets, but needs licensing checking
    • needs a flatpak submitted to flathub! (https://github.com/xtreme8000/BetterSpades/pull/115))
  • Top-N Most Important Projects
    • we could list this to point people at high-value quick-wins for e.g. asset creation
    • For assets, can make a Collection on opengameart, for needs-replacement stuff (think weblate but for game assets not translations)

• Status of non-free games in matchbot and #libregaming-matchmaking

  • Remove them altogether?
    • No thanks
  • Anti-feature tagging and warnings? (specing bot)
    • HIGHLY AGREEABLE, but needs work
    • I'd just like to interject for a moment...
  • Remove them if no action is being done on replacing non-free bits?
    • maybe a bit more reasonable
  • perhaps have a #libregaming-nonlibre?
  • TBD: see action

• Re-hash what exactly is LibreGaming policy on levels of libre-ness of projects (i.e. antifeature labelling vs. discounting the project)

• Status update Okapi (ContentDB fork) (postponed - no Armen)

  • Client integration with Arcadia etc? https://tauri.studio/ (electron like) Client?
  • would like this running, hosting needs python flask, is it good enough we can start having accounts?
  • https://games.armen138.com/ (test instastance)

• Arcadia status update

  • rewriting because python c/c++ bindings are hard, uses qml
    • possible windows package repository?: https://community.chocolatey.org/packages?q=SuperTuxKart
    • any Windows players anyway? onFOSS, Xonotic, Mindustry, Veloren, but they don't tend to be active in our dev sides - outreach to find someone willing
    • 0install is kinda like AppImage
  • some related projects to steal ideas from: https://playnite.link/ https://luxtorpeda.gitlab.io/
  • don't want to host files, need to get them from somewhere - Okapi? (itch.io is non-free)
  • productivity comes in cycles and arcadia development prone to long periods of inactivity

• Chat bridging status update (Veloren bridge by Timo currently down)

  • Maybe try bridging through IRC? Freegamedev brdges.
  • Matrix: Synapse vs Conduit, but if conduit bridging worked fine then Timo would probably do it

• SteamDeck and libregaming?

  • find someone who actually has one
  • "SteamDeck compatible" feature labelling on libre games (a la protondb)
  • uses flatpak to distribute non-Steam software

• Discussion about a Code of Conduct (that was on the agenda for the last one but didn't happen, correct me if I'm wrong)

  • not really discussed, don't really need one for now,

• Outreach/publicity

  • fun memes like "don't use X, check out Y"
  • "mum, I want minetest. We have minetest at home ... :("
  • lean into the fact they're not going to be exact matches
  • Why doesn't MarioKart let you play as Tux?
  • /r/linuxmasterrace - /c/linuxmasterrace ?

• Next meeting could be in 1 month if someone steps forward - try and have it by July at the latest (no longer than 3 months away)

Actions

• hribhrib to host clojure matchbot
• seabass to send hribhrib details of new matchmaking bot (Clojure version) for hosting
• poVoq to ask Lemmy devs for an instance on behalf of lemmy.libregaming.org
• emorrp1 to write out best understanding of ThinkSome's PoV, and consensus
• emorrp1 to raise issue and chase seabass for non-free tagging on matchbot
• poVoq+emorrp1 to fix #LibreGameNight to FGD bridging by going via Matrix rather than matterbridge
• librebob look into packagekit
• ThinkSome to document needed assets for LibreSpades for someone else to check if they're in BetterSpades
• emorrp1 to export minutes onto website